Meet Sandra Sperounes and Agnes DeMarco, the music writer and the rock-n-roll mom who shine a spotlight on creative people with their podcast, Agnes + Sandra's Three-Way.

Their relationship started when Sandra, then a writer with the Edmonton Journal, interviewed Agnes, "a personality in her own right" (which you will definitely hear in this conversation) who is also the mother of musician Mac DeMarco. 

Their podcast started with a conversation over a dirty Martini, and that cheeky name came from their first guest. Now that they are several episodes in, they are clearly having a grand time with each other and their guests, and that enthusiasm transfers to the listeners, too.

In this episode, you'll hear about the attractions of being behind the scenes and in front of the scenes; what they look for in a guest; why CKUA holds a special place in their hearts; the power of connecting directly and truthfully with your fans; how Edmontonians have a tendency to become famous in weird ways; and what it takes to make it these days, in either music or music journalism.

Download here. This episode is also available in Apple Podcasts, on Google Play, on SoundCloud or on Stitcher.

Sandra recommended the Capital City Records Song of the Week podcast, produced by CKUA, and the Capital City Records collection at the Edmonton Public Library.

We also talked a bit about the Legends of the Edmonton Music Scene project, spearheaded by Pete Rocker, and EDMojis, Sandra's curious foray into app development and inside jokes with Lucas Timmons.

You can subscribe to Agnes + Sandra's Three-Way in Apple Podcasts and on SoundCloud. Sandra is @sperounes on Twitter and Instagram, and Agnes is @agnesdemarco on Twitter and Instagram.

If you want to recommend this episode to others, they could find it at GRadio.ca, which plays Alberta Podcast Network shows every night at 6 pm, in the CKUA app, and at albertapodcastnetwork.com.

Many thanks to Castria for producing this episode. They'll be on hand at the next Edmonton Podcasting Meetup on Oct. 21, where we'll be talking to Doug Hoyer about being the pre-eminent composer of Edmonton podcast theme music. Join us here!

This episode of Seen and Heard in Edmonton is brought to you by the Edmonton Community Foundation, which acts as a bridge between donors and charities to help create a strong, vibrant community for generations to come.

Did you know you don't have to be rich to start an endowment fund? You'll hear a snippet of  how Emmy Stuebing put together her fund in this episode, and you can hear the whole story on Episode 2 of The Well Endowed Podcast.

Learn more about endowment funds at ecfoundation.org.

This episode is also brought to you by ATB, founding sponsor of the Alberta Podcast Network.

We are just coming off our official launch party, a celebration of the 16 podcasts now in the network and a momentum builder as we look to grow.  Not only did Lana Cuthbertson express ATB's deep support for and interest in this project, but she also provided an opportunity for Hamilton jokes, which is always appreciated. 

Good things happen because ATB listens. Find out more at atb.com/listen.

Musical credits: Beethoven’s Sonata No. 1 in F Minor, Op. 2 No. 1, played by Daniel Veesey, from freemusicarchive.com.